29/09/04
69Sage on OS X
I’ve had a few rasied eyebrows about the fact that I illustrated the Firefox icon, and I’m ‘not using the damn thing’. I’ve tried, believe me I’ve tried to like Firefox, but it still jars against me the way its so un-native. It looks great (thanks to Kevin and Stephen), but doesn’t act or feel like an OS X app. The grey opaque menus, little behavioural quirks, lack of interaction with the services menu, non-native widgets, no spell checking. It does allow you multiple undos in textareas though, which is a plus. Maybe the Mac Aquafication release will solve some of these issues (whenever that comes out…).
However, something that’s attracted me back to using Firefox in the last few weeks has been the Sage RSS Reader extension. With a little tweaking to make it look more like an OSX’y, I now have what feels like my ideal Browser/RSS Reader combination:
I love the idea of combining an RSS Reader with a browser, it makes sense to me (unlike, say, bundling a browser with an email client). I’d tried other solutions, such as Feed on Feeds, but stopped using it fairly quickly. It didn’t work well as a sidebar bookmark, and would often time out on the second feed. This is where Sage comes in, an RSS Reader thats designed to be used in the sidebar.
Feeds seem display to fast enough, and the interface even gives you the option to choose your own CSS for the feeds display, via the settings options.
Adding feeds is very easy, find a site you like, and Sage’s autodiscovery will list all the available feeds in a drop-down sheet. Future versions of Sage plan to integrate with the recent Live Bookmarks feature. The other advantage is that if you use something like the FTP Bookmarks Sync extension, its easy to keep your list of feeds synchronised across machines, as all your feed URLs are stored in your bookmarks.
One small suggestion I have is to remove the icon for ‘no updated feed’. Normally Sage would display an icon next to every feed, but removing this one will make it much clearer what is and isn’t updated, and which is returning errors. This is what I’ve done on my copy and you can see this in the screenshot above.
So far, Sage is the only thing that’s tempting me away from my favourite Omniweb 5 and NewsFire combination (which is just superb). I’m still not sure if it will replace it entirely, but at the end of the day, I just enjoy playing and fiddling.
How to install the Hicksdesign styled Sage
- Download the replacement Sage files
- Quit Firefox if it’s running
- Locate your Firefox profile folder: UserName >Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/xxxxxxx/chrome/ folder.
- Copy and paste the contents of ‘Add to userChrome.css’ to the userChrome.css file. If you’re using my mods for the toolbar icons, you must paste the sage css code somewhere after that.
- Copy the ‘sage’ folder to the chrome directory.
- Restart Firefox. This will have applied all the mods, apart from the display of articles. Under Sage’s ‘Options’, choose ‘settings’, and then where it says ‘Custom Style Sheet’, click browse, and select the sage.css file in your profile folder. UserName >Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/xxxxxxx/chrome/sage/sage.css
You’re done!
Update: If you’re using the current Firefox toolbar icons (I’m using the ones from v0.8 still) you may prefer to use Josh Jarmin’s version.
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Craig said 1430 days ago:
I’ll chime in to say that I agree that Sage is a great little plug-in.On the topic of Firefox’s quirks—something that irks me to the point of returning to Safari is the lack of being able to press up / down to get to the end/front of url / google / form fields.
Also, opening a new window with CMD-N doesn’t buffer your keyboard input .. so if you hit the command keys and start typing you either get a torrent of beeps or half of the url is lost.
It’s these small details that cause it to feel slightly out of place on OSX.
John Oxton said 1430 days ago:
Do you have PC users visit here? If so I use this on my PC and it is indeed fantastic!The Havoc said 1430 days ago:
Hey, do you still use the old Firebird or you were able to find an ultra nice theme for Firefox?Jon Hicks said 1430 days ago:
Havoc – This is Firefox 1.0PR, but I’m using the toolbat icons from v8.0 which I love. It isn’t really a theme, I just bung the old images into my profile’s chrome folder, and add the following css to the userchrome.css file:.toolbarbutton-1 {
list-style-image: url(“Toolbar.png�) !important;
}
toolbar[iconsize=�small�] .toolbarbutton-1 {
list-style-image: url(“Toolbar-small.png�) !important;
}
See this entry as well
Rune said 1430 days ago:
I must agree with John Oxton and say, that Firefox is more than brilliant if using PC. At PC it’s the best browser to use i think.And that plug-in seems very nice, i’ll install it. I don’t like the other readers where you should set up a whole new program.
Anyway it looks nice.
timfm said 1430 days ago:
John—how do you get the little green check boxes (circles) in Sage?Jeremy Keith said 1430 days ago:
What a beautifully illustrated post, Jon. You are clearly a man of taste in your choice of RSS feeds. :-)Tim said 1430 days ago:
(PC user here) I love Firefox more and more everyday. I too discovered Sage a couple of weeks ago and absolutely love it. I tried using Feed Demon and I love Bradbury’s work (I use TopStyle Pro exclusively), but I just couldn’t get into using a second app to check feeds. I always ended up opening Firefox and checking sites ‘manually’ anyway.I just makes sense having it in the browser and Sage works great. I’m going to have to give your Sage css a try now. Thanks.
(My computer is quickly becoming Hicksified: Firefox and Thunderbird icons, Hicks wallpaper, now Sagecss. I feel like a groupie. Or stalker.)
Jon Hicks said 1430 days ago:
Tim – If you’re using it on a PC you will have to change the CSS file slightly, as its set to use Lucida Grande (OSX system font).Dale Cruse said 1430 days ago:
I’m really curious how the upcoming release of Safari is going to incorporate RSS. Apple has made a big deal of announcing it, but have we seen any screenshots of functionality or anything?dik said 1430 days ago:
- weird, I can’t get the old buttons hack to work for me at all.dik said 1429 days ago:
also – John have you tried FF ‘live bookmark’ feature? I kind of prefer my RSS reader to be as intrusive as possibleJon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
I have tried it, and didn’t like it at all. Not as good as Ominweb’s implementation, as there seems to be no way of knowing which site’s been updated unless you look at the bookmarks. It doesn’t let you scan the text either. Its really intended for newbie’s.The Havoc said 1429 days ago:
Well, the toolbar thing didn’t worked for me but it’s great anyways.Thanks!
Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
Havoc/dik – Weird. did you both put the images in your firefox profile’s chrome folder? Added the css to userChrome.css? You are both on OSX aren’t you?Philippe said 1429 days ago:
The toolbar mods only work if you use the big icons; the -moz-clipping for the toolbar[iconsize=”small”] (small icons) appears to be off by 2px. If my screenruler is correct…. that is :-).p._/_
dik said 1429 days ago:
Yeah OSX, OK got it to work of sorts – taking the quotes off helps:.toolbarbutton-1 {
list-style-image: url(Toolbar.png) !important;
}
toolbar[iconsize=”small”] .toolbarbutton-1 {
list-style-image: url(Toolbar-small.png) !important;
}
Although the icons are all over the place, more tinkering time needed…
“Its really intended for newbie’s.” – er, ahem, yes of course I knew that… ahem.
Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
Thats true Philippe – I have i set on normal size, so I’ve not seen that. Probably just needs a few more lines adding to the CSS.Philippe said 1429 days ago:
This should work :http://emps.l-c-n.com/misc/toolbar_xtra.css
(adding to userChrome.css).
It is based on the chrome.css from FF0.8.
Use at own risk tada tada tada
joe said 1429 days ago:
dik – the reason the icons are all over the place is probably because you need to return to the default set of buttons on the toolbar. I had a button for Sage on my toolbar and it was all screwy.Jon – could you explain how you are editing the icons for Sage? (BTW – Sage is the reason that I use FF and not one of the other OSX browsers.)
Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
OK, here’s how you do it. Its a little complex, so I’ve been putting it off.Quit Firefox, and then go to your Firefox profile, find extensions and then the sage folder. This means looking in all the ‘chrome’ folders until you find a ‘sage.jar’ folder. Backup the sage.jar file
Next, unstuff the .jar file with either stuffit expander or by renaming it .zip and double clicking it. Then inside this will be 3 folders, the images to replace are in skin>classic.
Once you’ve replaced the images and fiddled, select the 3 folders (NOT the ‘sage.jar folder’ or whatever it was unstuffed to).
Zip these 3 folders, I use 10.3’s context menu “Create archive of 3 items”, and replace the original sage.jar file.
Stereo said 1429 days ago:
Have you tried the NetNewsWire 2 Public Beta? It has a built-in browser that uses Webcore. It is not perfect yet but feels better that Firefox.Stereo said 1429 days ago:
Direct download link for NNW 2Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
Stereo – haha. Yes I have !. I was using private betas regularly until NewsFire came along. It works great, but its still not a browser. I’d like to use just one app, rather than switch between the 2.I know people are going to start saying ‘bloglines’ to me, and bloglines functionailty is great, if only it was attractive to look at.
Mike D. said 1429 days ago:
I agree about the non-native weirdness and that’s why I don’t use Firefox yet either.One thing that is positively spectacular about Firefox though, and another reason to use it on occasion, is the on-the-fly CSS editing of the Developer Toolar add-on. You can make css changes in the left pane and the changes are instantly reflected in the main pane. You don’t even have to hit save. Maybe nothing to write CSS from scratch with, but great for on-the-spot debugging.
Anthony said 1429 days ago:
Jon,How do you like it in comparison to NetNewsWire 2? I was using Newsfire (at your recommendation), but switched to NNW2 after it came out. Like the build-in browser feature.
I agree that having an all-in-one would be wonderful—and seems Sage would provide this prior to the Tiger release of Safari.
Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
Mike – you can always to do that in Camino, with the edit css bookmarklet, and get the best of both worlds.shawn harris said 1429 days ago:
My biggest gripe with firefox is the way that it utterly and completely chokes on 80 percent of flash content. I mean – its unusuable if there is even a tiny flash button the page.If that was fixed – I would almost drop safari for firefox.
David said 1429 days ago:
I prefer to use Bloglines for keeping track of my blogs. It is great for keeping track of what I’ve already read when going back and forth between my home and work computers.Paul said 1429 days ago:
On mention of the Firefox aquafication release, I’ve always wondered why Camino and Firefox projects were not merged – seems to me that they both cover a lot of the same ground, and Fifefox features + Camino OSXness would = killer browser on the Mac as it is on PC.And as to NewsFire – any chance of a nicer icon for it Jon? I’ve been deciding between NetNewsWire and NewsFire, and so far NNW wins… (due to forementioned icon!)
Roger Johansson said 1429 days ago:
I’d say the only thing that keeps me from using Firefox full-time is that it doesn’t display text the way Safari does. Going from Safari’s beautifully anti-aliased text to Firefox’ lack of it almost hurts my eyes ;)That, and its horrible form controls.
Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
Anthony – It all depends on what you want from it. NNW is fantastic. The reason I like NewsFire so much is that its interface is pared down to the bare essentials. It only gives you what you need, and makes it feel like it’s a part of the browser already.David – See comment #24
Shawn – Flash performance is poor, it has to be said.
Paul – I think I know what you mean. There shouldn’t be a Firefox for mac, just a better Camino. At the end of the day it comes down to this. Firefox is the flagship ‘cross platform’ product, where developers are paid to work on it. Camino is run by a small team of dedicated, but voluntary, developers. Camino is very much a labour of love, but its not Mozilla’s flagship product. Go to the Mozilla front page, and try and find a mention of Camino. There is none. Grrrr.
Roger – yes, I must admit, Safari’s text rendering is superior to Safari/Omniweb.
So apart from the crap flash performance, inferior text rendering, non-native widgets, whats wrong with Firefox on mac? ;o)
Jeff Croft said 1429 days ago:
I’m with you, Jon. I simply can’t make myself use FireFox on Mac because of the non-nativeness. I’m wholly attached to Safari as my everyday browser. OmniWeb 5 is nice, but the out of date rendering engine blows it for me.I will say, though, that I use FireFox all the time when developing, simply because of the absolutley brilliant web developer extension.
Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
Jeff – wait till you see OW 5.1 with the up to date rendering engine – its the business! Should be out any day now…Darren said 1429 days ago:
I’m totally loving sage! So much so i too, wrote about it.There is one thing that bugs me (not a lot…) is what people choose to have in their RSS feeds. Sage works best when the RSS feed you’re reading contains full posts. A lot of blogs/news sites have very vague, and almost unusable ‘summaries’. I find that most of the time these summaries aren’t enough to actually get me to go to the site and read the entire article…which is kinda the point…
But all n all – I love Sage, and I will continue to use it.
Go custom style sheets! :)
timfm said 1429 days ago:
Jon (sorry I mispelled your name—post #6)—Does the icon sage care to share his sage icons with the flock?Anthony said 1429 days ago:
Just tried Sage out.While it’s great to have this feature added to the browser, my beef with it is that it only shows excerpts even for feeds that are provided in full.
Also, adding a feed seems to be a bit of an issue—I may be doing something wrong, but it’s much more difficult (well, relatively speaking) than NNW or Newsfire.
Not carrying logs up mountain difficult, but…
Krzysztof said 1429 days ago:
@ Philippe (19)This works great, but only with standard Firefox buttons. Any ohter icon (for extensions like Calendar, Sage, etc.) uses the whole Toolbar.png file. Is there a way to let them use their own graphics for buttons?
quis said 1429 days ago:
I was using this on Windows for ages and since I’ve just made the transition to an iBook this has made it as seemless as possible to keep up-to-speed with sites such as this one. It’s certainly better then the live boomarks system, but if the two could be integrated eventually then it would be extra good.The new icons look good too, I was impressed by the good-looks of the default OS X theme on Firefox and these keep it so.
Krzysztof said 1429 days ago:
oops, silly me, No. 21.marc nothrop said 1429 days ago:
Lots of good comments here! Jon thanks for the ‘Tiger-ish’ CSS for Sage, I tried it while back, but it didn’t fit, nor do I find myself using the Saft RSS sidebar much either—I haven’t found a browser-based RSS reader that doesn’t override the main benefit of specific clients; dealing with feeds and news items as objects. Safari RSS is a polished implementation, but still doesn’t cut it, IMHO.I had high hopes when Omni revealed RSS support in OW5, but it’s only marginally useful… there’s still too much of a focus on RSS as a psuedo-bookmarking mechanism (a la ‘Live Bookmarks’), vs RSS as a reading interface—this is where OW and the others fall down, though Safari RSS is the closest, I think (not being familiar with IE plugins on Windows, e.g. blogbot.)
In fact I’ve just been tossing this around with Khoi Vinh re an improved NNW2 WebKit browser coming at things from the other angle; a purpose-built RSS app, subsuming the browser.
The main issue for XUL apps is that they belie the limitations of their browser foundation… maybe Sage would feel a bit better with some direct manipulatoin in the UI, like this, for ordering feeds etc., along with live search.
I’ve never really gotten fully comfortable with FireFox for all of the above reasons from everybody, AND the inability to use Services, which is a biggy for me.
The FireFox/Camino situation is a tough one… I’d like Camino with FireFox extensibility, but that’s the central difference, native vs XUL interface!
Bring on OmniWeb 5.1, maybe I’ll commit to a license! : )
Steve said 1429 days ago:
Nice plug in. I wasn’t sure I’d like the whole “RSS feed through browser” approach but after about five minutes it sort of made sense and a few things were a little easier. That being said, three things irked me:1) Having to manually type all my NNW bookmarks into Firefox.
2) Not having each feeds favicon appear as in NNW.
3) Not knowing how many updates exist. Sure the nice little green ticks are good (thanks too John), but for some reason I prefer to know the number off new posting are in each feed as is the case with NNW.
Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
Timfm – I have, reread the post, I’ve updated it.Anthony – Thats due to what blog author choose to have in their feed. Where they specify full entry (as I have), you get the whole thing in Sage.
Marc – I suggested to Brent a while back that he make NNW into a full browser. His feeling is that there are too many browsers on the market, and he wouldn’t be able to recover the development time costs. However, the tabs implentation is so good in NNW, that it just needs a way of storing other bookmarks.
Camino is going to improve a lot for 0.9, so lets see…
Steve – regarding your irks.
1. Don’t do it by hand! Export your feeds from NNW as a opml file, and then import it into Sage (under settings). It works if you’ve used groups too!
2. Yeah that would real nice!
3. So would that.
quis said 1429 days ago:
Poking around I’ve also discovered that you can replace the icon that spins when Sage check for feeds. If you look in the skin/classic/icon folder you will see a checking.gif. Replace this with the one from the parent folder to get the standard Firefox throbber. Slightly better than the nasty non-aliaised default icon. Of course a Hicks special might be even better…Jon Hicks said 1429 days ago:
quis – thats right, and thats what I’ve done in my replacement icon set supplied above.marc said 1429 days ago:
Jon said (in 43):Marc – I suggested to Brent a while back that he make NNW into a full browser. His feeling is that there are too many browsers on the market, and he wouldn’t be able to recover the development time costs.Jon, yeah, that’s the response I expected—it seems a bit short-sighted, but I’m not the one having to write the code, I guess. : )Rather than worrying about NNW2 as a competitive browser, you’d think the developer would consider their users (which Brent generally does); one thing that it definitely needs are back/forward buttons… as soon as you follow a link in the browser view, you’re in trouble (a problem seen in a number of apps with WebKit views.)
...and as I said before, NNW2 would gain a whole new level of functionality by supporting bookmarklets, quite apart from supporting your existing bookmarks (and therefore raising the spectre of trying to replace any incumbent browser,) features right up the alley of its blogger, news-junkie audience! : )
Jon Hicks said 1428 days ago:
Marc- NNW2 has got back/forward buttons, as well as reload/text bigger/text smaller. Is that what you meant?Josh Jarmin said 1428 days ago:
Wow, a lot of comments on this one. I just wanted to say thanks, Jon, for highlighting this great Firefox extension. I was using Newsfire, as per your other post, but always hated having to open that and my browser when i wanted to read more of an article. Sage is the perfect way to keep it all inside of Firefox and so far it works great. Like others, I would love to see numbers, and a better icon that fits better in my toolbar. I love this plugin so much I am writing up an entry on my blog about it in a few minutes. Thanks again.Josh said 1428 days ago:
Thanks for the link to my article!Rajan said 1428 days ago:
i really am not bothered about appearance. i just want performance. firefox is far from ready for macosx. i mean the tab fucntions dont work(meaning extenstions that involve tab wont work).but i love FF1.0 for the RSS feeds and the speedy rendering. just get so annoyed whenver new links open up in new windows instead of tabs.
so i followed a friends advice and tried omniweb 5.0.1…i hated it! its huge and slow, (oh yes they have the tab browsing thingy and the RSS feeds thingy but it was just too huge!)
then i went back to safari, and while surfying google for safari alternates…i found shiira. great browser. Yes u cannot have RSS in it but honestly it renders in so quickly and its soooo mac’ish~
i’d think i’ll be using shiira till FF1.0 is finalised. meanwhile i’d just switch btw shiira and pulpfiction for RSS!
Jeff Clark said 1428 days ago:
I’m starting to wonder if I am the only person in the world with a blog that doesn’t use a Mac.It’s sad really. I would like to use Safari and all those cool little OSX toys, but alas I am also poor. :-)
Jon Hicks said 1428 days ago:
Rajan, there a couple of vital things that Shiira lacks that stops me using it full time. No bookmarklet support, and no keychain support for remembering logins. Otherwise a great browser.Omniweb can be a bit overwhelming at first, but its worth sticking with it. Give 5.1 a try when it comes out, as this will use the latest webcore (with Omnigroup’s own ‘fixes’ as well).
marc said 1427 days ago:
Jon said (in 47): Marc- NNW2 has got back/forward buttons, as well as reload/text bigger/text smaller. Is that what you meant?Um, yeah… that was a pretty huge over sight! Not the best example to use : )
I dunno how I missed the buttons, but I did… the disconnect between the main toolbar, and the embedded toolbar, is similar as in iTunes with the ITMS. Obviously it makes sense to locate the function with the browser controls, but it can cause a little confusion with the main toolbar (e.g. browser back/forward vs next/prev article.)
As for the other ‘buttons’ I couldn’t see any way to show those as separate buttons, as opposed to being options in the Contexual menu.
If only you could double-click the article and feed panes to show/hide them (as in the Finder), it could be interesting to experiment with NNW as a browser… just a pity about those bookmarklets, which could make it a blogger’s bestest friend ever! ; )
tom said 1426 days ago:
the worst time consuming thing about newsreaders is simply the fact that you have to click through each channel all the time and don’t have them all in one view.my approach to the newsreader alternative is http://01b.com
regards
tom
Jon Hicks said 1426 days ago:
Tom – thats true, although in NNW you can view all the new headlines in one go.I don’t know that http://01b.com is really a solution though – what a huge mass of information. Its presented in a way that I find very hard to follow.
pete said 1425 days ago:
I’ve been using RSS panel reader (the previous version of sage) for a while now and agree that RSS and browser integration makes a lot of sense.For some reason you .jar wouldn’t work in my current version of PC Firefox (9.1) giving a blank browser window and no sidebar but Josh’s version works fine. Not sure if it’s to do with the wrong mime type on your server or my browser messing up the mime type. I got a browser window full of code which I then saved as.
Thanks for the article and the new .jar. looks really good.
BTW I’ve never comented before and the preview as you type is really good.
Michael Romero said 1424 days ago:
I am a huge fan of Sage. I’m not a Mac user, but I do like some of the enhancements you’ve made to the default interface of it. Too bad it probably would not look very good in Windows 2000 or XP.Ben Cochez said 1424 days ago:
Michael, I’ve extracted the custom css from the jarfile, modded it a bit and it looks good on WIndows.Basically you have to do this:
– Extract the jarfile – from contentres copy the sage.css file to your favourite custom sage stylesheet directory – remove all references to chrome://sage/skin/ – just leave the filenames (dayamn, there is only one occurence, oh well) – Copy header.gif from skinclassic to the same dir where you copied the sage.css – Download Lucida Grande from Iceman’s emulation page and install it.
Choose the sage.css as custom stylesheet and you’re peachy! I’ve added ‘font-weight: bold;’ to ‘rss-title’ ...
And I hope I didn’t forget something…
Jon, thanks for such a great skin! I’ve seen some other Safari-RSS makeoverers for Sage; but this is the best one yet! Can’t wait to try it tomorrow on my iMac at work.
Ben Cochez said 1424 days ago:
Blast, it seems I’ve got some b0rked output… Oh wellPete Ankelein said 1422 days ago:
Jon, I tried your sage.jar and while it works initially, it seems to be a bit buggy in XP here. If I click through my feed links, the main content window doesn’t update the feed…or if it does, it’s seldom and randomly. Works fine with the original .jar file, though. I’ve no problem using the default as I like the muted tones but thought you might like to know. Anyone else encountering this?Jon Hicks said 1422 days ago:
Pete, this .jar has only been tested on OS X. I’ve no idea if it will work on XP, but the main problem could be that I’ve specified ‘lucida grande’ as the only font, which is an OS X system font. What I’ve done is updated this, to specify verdana and then sans-serif afterwards. I’ve also changed the way I’ve created the .jar file. Could you download again from the here, and let me know if that helps?Pete Ankelein said 1422 days ago:
No, it’s the same issue. I can load an initial feed…and it looks good. If I click any other feed it doesn’t update the main content area. If I quit and restart, I can choose any of the feeds and it will load appropriately. Not sure if it’s really a font issue. In the previous .jar, XP just substituted Lucida Grande with something similar, albeit at a smaller size. While I like Sage’s default colors, I think the way you’ve set up each feed topic to span the entire content area width is smart…though, I also do like the fact that the default shows images associated with each article.One little thing I noticed with your journal and the default version is that if someone posts code in the article, Sage blows it out in the CSS as one long line which spans across the page onto one of the other article’s content boxes. An example is the “Textpattern Notes Part 4” article.
Mark said 1421 days ago:
Funny i decided just now that I would be using Sage already as my default reader but I was having a dilemma because I didn’t like its default Content CSS. Your work is a savior.Just want to say my thanks…
Sage said 1421 days ago:
Nice to know I’m awfully popular around these parts! :-)serge said 1419 days ago:
I think it gets out of sync with the feed item list activated (Options > Show Feed Item List).John said 1418 days ago:
omg, it looks so beautiful, but the feed list its pretty messed up =[ im using sage 1.2.2 on windows. I’d really like to use this.. what version are u using? at least till u realease an update or something thanks for ur workPete Ankelein said 1417 days ago:
John, thanks so much for tweaking the .jar file. Works fine in XP, now!John said 1417 days ago:
no problem! glad i could help =) It’s looking good! here’s a screenie..http://screenshots.haque.net/screenshots/show/21364/
Thanks!!
oh, i forgot to mention.. the actual forlders are: “skinclassic” and “skinclassicicon”, the other (“contentres”) is fine =] tho It’s kinda obvious =P and the toolbar worked also! (i used the one from previous jar) but i changed it to one that goes with my theme =) nice work anyway!
John said 1417 days ago:
aww… the slashes didn’t came up =( let’s see..skin/classic
skin/classic/icon
conten/tres
you can edit that =$ sorry for that mess =]