24/11/04
Survey: What Text Editor do you use?
The response to my comping application survey was incredible, but didn’t unearth any hidden gems that I’d hoped. Fireworks MX is still the best one for me, and I’ve been following a suggestion in the comments to restart it every now and again. The solves the sluggishness problem, the same as it does for Safari, and I don’t mind doing it every now and then to keep it running well.
Now then, Text Editors. I feel like I’ve tried every one going for OS X. BBEdit, Textmate, Smultron, Tag, SubEthaEdit and many more. My firm favourite is still skEdit, and I’m shocked that more people don’t use it.
Here are some of my favourite features of skEdit:
- Project manager window to launch site folders.
- File view sidebar – makes it so quick to switch between files
- Auto tag completion (_really_ automatic – no key combo needed)
- HTML and CSS code hinting – this is a big one. No other mac application apart from Dreamweaver appears to offer this – do correct me if I’m wrong.
- Easy to create snippets, and set key combo’s for them. ‘Create unordered list nav’ is my favourite. This takes a list of words, and adds the
<ul>,<li>, and<a href>tags for you.
One thing skEdit does miss out on is an inbuilt web preview, which other editors had implemented as soon as the Safari webcore became available. The time skEdit saves me is incalculable.
So what’s your favourite? Are you using some obscure shareware editor that I should really check out? Again, the one criteria – must work on OS X.
213
Tags:
Gavin said 1413 days ago:
I couldn’t live without BBEdit (still using 6.5 though). I trialled skEdit, which looked great, but I couldn’t get it to open invisible files (.htaccess etc.), which is a big limitation. Did I miss something obvious?John Oxton said 1413 days ago:
I am sorry but it has to be Dreamweaver for me, as you say code hinting, syntax highlighting and auto complete, now maybe I am a bad person but I am never going to forget this: and if DW can do half the job for me, great!I also find it really useful as a word processor. No really, it writes clean code and using split view means when I am typing up I can add those little extras into the code easily.
The fact that nearly all the languages I use have some form of syntax highlighting is a bonus too.
I hear it is slow as hell on a MAC though. Not something I have experienced first hand but then I just thought it was my iBook not being very powerful.
Marcus Ramberg said 1413 days ago:
VIM. It has the best syntax coloring, perl extensibility, exists on all platforms, regexp support for search and replace, . And once you know VI syntax, you can edit files on any unix machine. Also, there are a massive number of extensions for it. It might seem cumbersome, but once the keys are in your fingers, it can’t be matched for speed of editing.Hayo said 1413 days ago:
Textpad and/or Topstyle.Chris Stout said 1413 days ago:
SkEditI read your recommendations, tested SkEdit and purchased it.
It’s not perfect, but it’s gonna be (hopefully soon) :-D
Lean, fast, unintrusive – very mac-like.
Darice de Cuba said 1413 days ago:
I’m using TextMate since what over a month. I actually found out about it via your website. I liked it so much I bought a license right after the demo. Its color syntax is much more nicer then other editors, the text is anti-aliased. It’s fast and of course project tabs. The soft wrap works nicer then other editors I have tried. I have taken a liking with the icon also. I have been coding more pleasantly since I’m using TextMate. It’s just right for me.Hans said 1413 days ago:
Not available for OS X, but I’ve been using EditPad Lite for as long as I can remember.stu said 1413 days ago:
sKedit is what I’m using these days, however I still use DW to spell checkJeremy Flint said 1413 days ago:
On my PC at the office, I use Homesite 5. I have used it for going on 5 years now, and I just can’t do without it. I have keyboard shortcuts set up for most of the common elements that I use on a day-to-day basis (CTRL + 1, 2, 3, 4 for h1, h2, h3, etc.).I write my CSS in Homesite as well.
When I got my Powerbook, I was in some sort of a pickle finding a text editor that I was comfortable with as Homesite is not available for Mac. I tried skEdit, SubEthaEdit, TacoHTML and even the new TextMate.
In the end, I went with BBEdit. I like the ability to open multiple files in the same window using the file sidebar. I was also able to set up shortcut keys almost identical to Homesite, so there isn’t a lot of variance when I go from one platform to the other.
EAW said 1413 days ago:
Dreamweaver for me also (PC) , for basically all the same reasons as John Oxton. It just works – code highlighting, customizeable formatting, and a nice file browser. I basically never use the WYSIWYG features, but I understand they work pretty well.ray said 1413 days ago:
On a PC i’m all about Homesite 4.0. It’s what i migrated to from notepad.I would have to say that’s my biggest complaint with the iBook i just purchased… no Homesite. But I did just purchase skEdit a couple of days ago and have been enjoying it.
Alex said 1413 days ago:
TextMate has been my editor of choice for some time now. It’s lacking some functionality (Printing anyone?), but overall is very solid, versatile and simple at the same time. BBEdit is just too much for a lot of people.TaQ said 1413 days ago:
Vim. Always. :-)Robert Wydra said 1413 days ago:
I use eclipse with some open source plugins. Works great for me :)Scott said 1413 days ago:
It’s got to be Vim for me. TextMate would probably come in second, and I’m anxious to see how it advances. However, Vim still reigns supreme.Arie said 1413 days ago:
I swear by Topstyle (winhoax only).– It is light (unlike DW it doesn’t take weeks to load). – It has customizable syntax highlighting for all languages I use. – It has a hint thingy for suggestions on tags, attributes and css properties. I notifies you of errors.
The only thing I would want more in it is a hint of the available arguments of the php/asp functions you are typing.
Malarkey said 1413 days ago:
Textpad;)
Malarkey said 1413 days ago:
Aaaagh! My link got stripped (but displayed in the live preview)www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/living_without_textpad.html
Humberto Oliveira said 1413 days ago:
I uset TopStyle. The main reason is the side by side preview comparision between IE and Mozilla. This single feature is a great time saver when we need to deal with IE CSS bugs.Humberto Oliveira said 1413 days ago:
I use TopStyle. The main reason is the side by side preview comparision between IE and Mozilla. This single feature is a great time saver when we need to deal with IE CSS bugs.Tomas Jogin said 1413 days ago:
I use Textmate myself. Not so much because of the features, it’s the feeling.Chetan said 1413 days ago:
As a pc user, I edit in Textpad (everything) and TopStyle Pro for xhtml and css. Textpad is a very powerful, yet very simple editor capable of– unlimited memory (only limited by system memory; it loads text files of size 300mb-400mb in seconds!),
– ability to add custom syntax files (for some custom application input, I write my own; and it’s very easy),
– column selection (try cutting and pasting column data back and forth into Excel)—a feature I use extensively for my finite element analysis.
Chris Biagini said 1413 days ago:
SubEthaEdit. I think its interface is one of the best on the platform. Hard to describe, but it just “feels” right.My personal can’t-live-without features:
* Blockediting
* “New View”
* Different fonts for different languages (Courier for prose, Monaco for code)
* Great command-line tool (top -l 1 | see)
* Decent AppleScript support
Chris Biagini said 1413 days ago:
Hm…Malarkey’s right…the preview doesn’t match the posted comment. I was admiring the ul in the preview, but it was posted as plain text.Wade Winningham said 1413 days ago:
I primarily use TopStyle for css and static html sites and HomeSite for PHP development. I’ve used HomeSite now for 6 years and can’t seem to find a code editor that beats it. TopStyle is just indespensible for building styles though.dan said 1413 days ago:
Hands down homesite on PC. I’ve tried to leave it, but it’s thge best text-editor and fully intergrated with top styles. I fear the day Macromedia will stop making it.Sander Värv said 1413 days ago:
Best CSS editor for OS X in my opinion is CSSEdit from Macrabbit. Auto-complete, css extraction from URL, customizable preview and the best visual editing mode I’ve seen. See for yourself:http://www.macrabbit.com/cssedit/
david gee said 1413 days ago:
Homesite 5.5 on the PC, and ooccassionally Topstyle 3. I’d probably switch over to Topstyle permanently if it had better extended search-and-replace tools, and if I could get the Mozilla preview to work.Dale Cruse said 1413 days ago:
Jon, your question is about text editors, but your description is about code editors. Those are two different things, in my mind. For code I use BBEdit or Dreamweaver, but for a word-processor, I use things like Word, TextEdit, BBEdit, and xPad, depending on the situation and the particular file I’m working on.Edoardo Galvagno said 1413 days ago:
I use jEdit!Open source, written in Java, works on all the major platforms, very extensible with plug-ins and macros.
Some of its pluses are:
multiplatform, it works the same way on all systems (while it may seem not really important, it is for me as I’m the only one in a group of more than 50 to use a Mac, and jEdit is in some ways similar to Coldfusion Studio [that, btw, Macromedia does not support anymore in favor of Dreamweaver that, see below, I don’t value very much])sintax highlighting for many languages (I counted up to 80 and stopped, but there are more…)multiple project or sessions at once, switching from a set of files to anothersql queries via a plug-incvs plug-incode navigationflexible user interface (e.g. horizontal/vertical split views)of course regex search and replace
There are many more plug-ins (more centred on java programming for example, or LaTeX editing, etc…)
When I had to choose which editor to use (some months ago) I tried skEdit as well but at the time it lacked Coldfusion syntax highlighting (that I really need and that was integrated in jEdit by another Coldfusion Studio user who switched editor) and overall seemed less flexible than jEdit.
As I had to switch from Coldfusion Studio (on Windows) it seemed natural to test Dreamweaver: it was (and still is, I think) horribly slow and unstable on my machines (and I’m speaking of a Powermac G4 DP
1.25 GHz and a Powerbook1.33 GHz) and so I decided I could live with a little less code hinting…I like SubEthaEdit as well, but it still lacks on some points (very little scriptability) and I really prefer to manage a “project” inside the editor and have a tabbed view instead of multiple windows.
I use it when I have to edit LaTeX files or have casual editing on the fly.
One thing I don’t find necessary is the ability to preview within the editor: I much prefer having a couple of browsers open at all time (even more now that I code on a Mac but have to test against IE on Win…)
All in all, if I were to choose today I would have probably given some more chances to skEdit but back at that time I had to go with jEdit.
Btw, what do you use to edit css files? It may seem off-topic but, while I usually do it within jEdit, I found myself launching more often CSSEdit when I need some exotic properties I can’t recall by heart or when I want to have a “broader” view of my css.
David said 1413 days ago:
BBEditM.e. said 1413 days ago:
Check out HyperEdit. It uses Apple’s Webcore to render pages in REAL time, as you type. Not very useful as a text editor, but it’s neat to see your pages come alive before your eyes.I have to give a few props to Dreamweaver, too. It’s code hinting and FTP features are great, although it’s php hinting leaves a little to be desired. FTP is huge. There is no browsing on the server, so you can shift command u right from your document and it’s on the server. You can also specify a testing server or FTP files each time you save &mdash always to the proper directory. Zero browsing is very cool.
Oh, and I use Macs and Dreamweaver is not slow in the least.
dotjay said 1413 days ago:
As a legacy from my more “open-source junkie” days, I use the Syn Text Editor, found on SourceForge:http://syn.sourceforge.net/
It has a greater range of syntax highlighting capabilities and tabbed editting than my last editor.
Ben said 1413 days ago:
When I am using Windows, (at work and previously on my PC then) I use Crimson Editor, a great, very fast and light editor that has ftp, syntax highlighting, tabs etc with a very uncluttered and unintrusive interface.Having switched recently to a 12” Powerbook, I am struggling to find anything close to it. After some dallying I have chosen Smultron, over Textmate and BBEdit, (although some recommendation shere will be given a go). I mainly struggle because of the screen siz eof the powerbook being what it is.
As an indentation facist, my most desirable function is a highlight-indent/deindent, although good syntax highlighting is also a must.
Alex Cabrera said 1413 days ago:
You turned me on to skEdit and I’ve never looked back. $20 and made by an independent developer who personally responds to your emails, how can you resist?Jason Beaird said 1413 days ago:
I use a PC here at work and I’ve just started to look for options. A lot of times I need to make quick edits to an html page on a mapped server, so I just jump into it with notepad.Notepad is great because it’s so quick, but it could really use some features like line numbers and multiple undos.
Right now I’m really enjoying a little open source app called Notepad 2. It opens fast, isn’t bloated with unnecessary features, and is just plain sexy.
Edoardo Galvagno said 1413 days ago:
yes, my preview as well showed uls that don’t show up in the post, so it is somehow mangled in the middle :-(happy to see many homesite (coldfusion studio) fans over here :-) shame that it’s not really supported anymore (I think) and that there has never been a Mac version.
…and oh yes, blockediting and different fonts for different languages are big features of SubEthaEdit
Ischa Gast said 1413 days ago:
One word: Topstyle!Wilson said 1413 days ago:
As much as I love skEdit, there’s a bizarre undo bug lurking that’s temporarily forced me back to SubEthaEdit. skEdit starts to drop chunks of code if I undo too far, which is a killer when I’m making temporary changes to a css file to test something out. I know Sean is working on it (because he told me) but it’s hard to replicate and describe, and seems to be hard to kill. Still, I miss the file column and super-smooth autocomplete of skEdit whenever I’m in SEE.Roberto said 1413 days ago:
Vim, that’s for sure. If I could go back to my 18 year old self and say “learn this”, I would say:# Learn vi(m)
# Learn regular expressions
# Learn Python
Dysfunksional.Monkey said 1413 days ago:
I use Firefox & CSSEdit for quick CSS design, and TextPad for (X)HTML/CSS/PHP/everything else. Couldn’t live without the Search & replace tools – I mean, it handles Regular Expressions! Makes tweaking hundreds of PHP files so much quicker, especially when you’re working with someone else’s code.If the developers built in code-hinting, this would be a hands-down winner for development on the PC.
Richard@Home said 1413 days ago:
HTML-Kit (http://www.chami.com) – Free to use, Windows only though. Works under WINE on *nix though.Loads of features: Live editing (Save your file and its FTP’d to the server), PHP, HTML and Javascript highlighting in the same document. Same for context sensitive help. Oodles of plugins. Built in HTML-Tidy. Totally customisable GUI.
Jason G said 1413 days ago:
I too use skEdit and love it.It has many of the features I love about HomeSite/CF Studio for Windows. A robust find and replace (the UI for which is a bit awkward but it works).
My biggest complaint is that the undo history can be seriously wrong. I rely on undo at work, at home it is not that important, but until this is fixed (and it may be in recent betas but I havent had time to test it) I would not recommend making drastic changes you are unsure of in the final file.
I have not been bitten too hard by this bug, but I can see it happening.
Other than that, I dare you to find a better HTML editor for $20 Windows or Mac.
Jonathan Snook said 1413 days ago:
Dreamweaver is most definitely one of the best editors out there. Except it can be extremely sluggish. For quick editing and most of my coding is actually done using UltraEdit. Super fast, syntax highlighting for anything and completely customizable. You can hotkey anything, handles ascii, utf-8, and unicode. You can create macros. HTMLTidy integration. Has FTP support but I don’t use it. You can set up applications to launch and it can capture dos output.Andrea Piernock Barrish said 1413 days ago:
At work I’m using Homesite 5.5—I’ve been using Homesite for almost 5 years and I absolutely love it. Unfortunately I don’t have it on my home PC anymore. For a while I was using NetBeans (since I was already using it for Java) and jEdit (same) but recently downloaded TextPad, and I’m probably going to purchase it. It’s a good program so far, haven’t found any reason NOT to like it yet :)sean said 1413 days ago:
Vim.jEdit once in a blue moon.
Nick Finck said 1413 days ago:
I am always using Homesite wherever I am at. I know you’re probably looking for a Mac solution but I am affraid I am in the same boat you are, nothing for the Mac impressed me. I have tried Dreamweaver and BBedit and both are “ok” but both can be frustrating to use (part of the reason I still use Homesite on Windows instead of Dreamweaver on Windows, yes, there is a huge difference).Jeff Croft said 1413 days ago:
At the moment, I am mostly using Dreamweaver. The biggest reason is that it’s cross platform, so I get the same thing on Mac and Windows. But, I’m getting frustrated with it. Performance on Mac is less than adequate, and it’s unstable for me on both platforms. I’ve peeked at skEdit, SubEthaEdit, and TextMac for OS X, but never really used any of them. I think it’s high time I give them a good solid try.All that having been said, I’m also a bit of a VIM nerd. I don’t usually use it on Mac or Windows, but I use it a lot to make small edits to files that are already on my (Linux) server, just to save me the time of downloading and reuploading…
Philipe Fatio said 1413 days ago:
For PHP Development I use Zend Studio 3.5. It’s really great and has got the best debugger I’ve ever seen.For CSS I use TopStyle. It’s really simple to switch from IE view and Gecko.
Matt Carey said 1413 days ago:
BBEdit still—I know the interface so it makes everything really quick.Martin Sweeney said 1413 days ago:
vim.It handles syntax for all php, html, perl, css and anything else I need to use. Editing on-server makes things fast, light and easy. Never gonna look back to my Frontpage days ;o)
M.
mini-d said 1413 days ago:
As a PC User: UltraEdit and TopStyle Pro 3.0. On Macs i’m a BBEdit whore.Soon i will purchase SubEthaEdit , i love rendezvous features.
walter said 1413 days ago:
Wow, out of 52 responses, not a single Emacs-user ?Emacs – html, css, javascript, perl, php, (insert language of choice) – savvy.
soxiam said 1413 days ago:
skedit would’ve been a serious contender for bbedit for me if it added one missing feature: soft wrap that works with line number turned on. Of course, topsyle pro on pc blows both of these away.Zach Harkey said 1413 days ago:
BBEdit 7.1 here. Yes, I’m sick as hell of it. But I have tried everything else and I just can’t seem to get anywhere near the same amount of work done as I can in BBEdit. I know a lot of it has to do with the fact that I have hundreds of often used keyboard shortcuts and a sick customized glossary.In fact, I would probably be using BBEdit 8 right now if it would just import all my 7.1 shortcuts, but it won’t and it would easily take me a day to reconfigure.
At the moment I am back and forth trying to convert to TextMate.
-z
Craig Ingram said 1413 days ago:
More love for skEdit!Drew McLellan said 1412 days ago:
I come from a background of using HomeSite on Windows, so when I switched to using a Mac 11 months ago I went looking for something with a similar feature set. I tried lots of things (including skEdit) and eventually settled on BBEdit because it seemed to be the most mature.skEdit (despite have a great icon!) never felt like a pro-grade application to me. It’s the same feeling I get with any of the dedicated CSS editors for OS X – they all feel like toys rather than serious production tools.
Having never been completely satisfied with BBEdit, and in particular its MDI workflow, I was keen to try out TextMate when it launched. TextMate seems to be the closest thing I’ve found to HomeSite in terms of comfort level, yet it goes way beyond HomeSite too. I’ve not used BBEdit since the day I downloaded the first TextMate beta.
TextMate (despite having a terrible icon!) is new, quick on its feet and is designed for the modern Mac-based developer. BBEdit is over-priced, over-rated and out-dated. It’s essentially a port of an old Classic application, and it feels every bit of it.
Nick Santilli said 1412 days ago:
Ha! Richard@Home nailed it before I could.Since all the PC users are chiming in (even though you’re only looking for OSX solutions Jon… ;) they should ALL check out HTML Kit for PC code editing. (http://www.chami.com/)
It’s the ONLY piece of software I miss using (on a PC) since I got my PowerBook. It’s free, and just a fantastic editor. does it all. PC Users: go check it out now.
ok, that’s out of the way.
sadly, I don’t have any osx gems to add. I’m a SubEthaEdit fellow myself, with a little DW mixed in on occassion. I’ve toyed with most found in these comments, but never really pick up on them as much as SEE. Will probably give skEdit another try because of your endorsement JOn, but don’t think it’ll take with me…
Peter J.Lambert said 1412 days ago:
I’m new to the mac. I always used Homesite on PC and did miss it a bit when I switched. Tried a few (BBedit etc) and settled on skEdit.Absolutely love it. I think it’s the first shareware I’ve ever payed for.
Keith Bell said 1412 days ago:
OK, so here’s a couple I haven’t seen mentioned yet. All my work originally was on PC, and I’ve always liked applications that do just enough and no more – i.e. not a lot of bells and whistles that I’ll rarely if ever use. So I liked Paul Lutus’ Arachnophilia, which was Windows-only at that time.When I started using Macs as well as PCs, I needed a code editor for the Mac. I tried out Optima System’s PageSpinner because I remember Jeffrey Zeldman writing that he used it, so if it was good enough for him… Anyway, I liked it and stuck with it.
But then Paul Lutus re-wrote Arachnophilia in Java and so now it’s platform-independent, and I’m back to using just one code editor again. There might be more feature-rich editors around, but I hate “learning” new applications after investing time in getting to know and customise one to my needs, and Arachnophilia does everything I want. And did I mention it’s FREE?
Eric said 1412 days ago:
I wish that ActiveState’s Komodo was available for OS X, but sadly it isn’t.I am currently using TextMate and it leaves me wanting a bit, but for the most part with the code folding, the good syntax highlights, the code completion, etc – it is very close to being just right for me.
I paid for it the first time I tried it and have been pleased with it. As someone else said, BBEdit is too much money for a lot of extra features I don’t want/need.
Keith Bell said 1412 days ago:
Aagh! Links were stripped out (Comment 60). I’ll try it this way:Arachnophilia: http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/
PageSpinner: http://www.optima-system.com/pagespinner/index.html
Stuart Mynard-Keene said 1412 days ago:
BBEdit – There is no comparison!Arie said 1412 days ago:
So, next survey about favorite ftp clients?Jon Hicks said 1412 days ago:
No, don’t worry, I think this’ll be the last survey!John Serris said 1412 days ago:
I had the “joy” of using DW on OSX a few weeks ago and almost threw the computer out the window. I use topstyle pro on PC. Fast, no BLOAT and does what it’s suppose to do without getting in the way.Jon Hicks said 1412 days ago:
Edoardo – I do all my css in skEdit.soxiam – skEdit 3.5 will do that. I’ve been testing a beta version, and it works great.
Wilson/JasonG – Yeah the infamous ‘undo bug’. I’ve been hit by that a few times, almost made me drop skEdit for BBEdit. But it didn’t
I’d also like to agree with all those sticking their neck out for Dreamweaver. I’d still be using it if wasn’t for the the fact is was so slow on my G5.
Jeremy Koempel said 1412 days ago:
skEdit all for all of my coding needs. It is quick, featured without being over-featured and $20. To top it off, the skEdit creator isn’t a day over 20 years of age!Jay Reding said 1412 days ago:
I use Dreamweaver on both Mac OS X and Windows. The FTP features are invaluable, and the code completion and highlighting are excellent. Even on my little iBook, Dreamweaver seems to run just fine, although I only use the code view 9 times out of 10, which probably makes it slightly easier.Alternately, for some projects, there’s nothing better than pico. If all I want to do is make a minor change, I find it easier to use than the GUI in TextPad and generally faster.
I really should learn vim, but given that most of my text-editing needs don’t involve needing all those additional features joe/nano/pico do the job just as well.
Seth Messer said 1412 days ago:
Jon, funny you bring this up, I had been struggling with this same thing for quite sometime, only specifically for my windows machine(s). I have since then settled upon Crimson Editor, though I will revisit Textpad again only cuz Malarkay says so. On my powerbook I stick to BBEdit, though Textmate has a TON of votes it seems like, as does skEdit. So i’ll definitely give those a try.Good luck with your search.
Jarkko Laine said 1412 days ago:
TextMate. The feel and the extensibility is just amazing. With commands you can hook it up with just about any unix app. Or what’d you say about code completion for PHP syntax (created by a TM user) that is done using TM commands?Plus, it’s getting better every day, the pace is just incredible.
And if you know some great feature it’s lacking (and can reason it well enough to the developer), you can be pretty sure it gets implemented sooner rather than later.
Scott Johnson said 1412 days ago:
I like a text editor that works wherever I work. As such, I have found myself using (g)vim everywhere lately. It’s on all of the servers that I use. And in the rare case that it’s not on a server, vi will suffice. And on my PC at work, gvim works much better than notepad. And it came preinstalled on my Mac. It’s just the most ubiquitous editor for my environments, and that, along with its excellent features, makes it the best editor for me.Mike Kilmer said 1412 days ago:
I am partial to Notepad on Windows (An oldie but goodie), and GEedit on Linux. I even use GEedit on the mac while running through x11. Dreamweaver is very neutral plateform alternative and works good except when dealing with WAP.Anyone know a really good wap editor for Mac and Windows?
Daniel Schierbeck said 1412 days ago:
Eclipse IDE with PHPeclipse PluginCross-platform, very flexible, supports FTP and CVS etc etc. Me likeh.
anthony morales said 1412 days ago:
So far, my rough estimate is that skEdit, BBEdit and TopStyle are tied for first place (10 votes each). They’re followed by Homesite and Dreamweaver (7 votes each).Here’s my favorites: On the PC I loved – really, loved – Homesite. I still lie awake at night, crying, that I can’t use Homesite on my Macs. But I love my mac. John, you turned me on to skEdit and I really like it, but move back and forth between it and Dreamweaver. It’s not too slow.
ant
Caleb Jaffa said 1412 days ago:
I use a bunch of editors regularly. Sometimes when I start on a site I’ll whip it up in skEdit, but as mentioned the undo history getting munged, etc. hold it back. It was still well worth the price though. I am adjusting to using TextMate, but I haven’t been doing a lot of coding lately, so I haven’t had the incentive to really get in and get comfortable with it. I think TextMate holds the most promise for my style of doing things. I am a switcher of about 2 years. So Dreamweaver which is basically WYSIWYG on top of Homesite should have been a no brainer. However the Mac version feels like its the Windows square peg version trying to go through the round hole of Mac OS X. Speed is an issue too. However if I could point to one application and say I just want a Mac (not that it just runs on Mac, but done by people who understand what a Mac application is) Homesite. Then there is BBEdit. I never wanted to like it as much as I do. I thought it was missing the mark for me, it was a good C/C++/etc. editor, not really a HTML/CSS one. Now that I have some alternative, I still find myself launching it daily, I guess using it for almost two years will do that to you. The last one I use almost daily is Nano, anytime I am playing around with stuff in the terminal I find it easier to just edit configuration files, etc. in nano.Josh Jarmin said 1412 days ago:
Alex Cabrera said back in comment #35:“You turned me on to skEdit and I’ve never looked back. $20 and made by an independent developer who personally responds to your emails, how can you resist?”
I was about to post something very similar until I read your comment. It sums everything for me up. I kept on reading about how much Jon loves skEdit and so i tried it and never looked back. The best part is that the developer is quick to respond to emails and really cares about user problems and tries his best to fix them quickly. You just can’t beat that.
mathew h. said 1412 days ago:
i’m all over bbedit 8’s demo (18 days left!) as my default plain text editor. i’ve tried subEtha and textmate, pico(!), skEdit, jEdit and more, but always seem to come back to the bb.in the new version of bbedit, i appreciate the “file-drawer” which is a great mac-looking addition to the application. it’s now easier to edit documents and see which ones are different, etc. there is soo much this app seems to think that i can do that i can’t wait to get in there and start digging.
that said, the price tag is terrible and 99% of the reason that i’m using the demo up until the very-last-second. i like the skEdit pricetag.
hehe. this sounds a little wonky, but i’m all over the icons and interface of an app. if i don’t like the icon and how it looks in my dock, i don’t use the app. plain and simple. if i hate how the interface looks (regardless of the app’s power), i don’t use it. it’s very hard to use edit plus 2 at work in that respect. textmate’s icon is terrible (no offense intended). the skEdit one is pretty sweeth (hehe.. suckup..).
for a rick-text editor i flipflop back and forth between a number of apps, but mainly stick my my main-dog, xPad which is delightfullly brilliant for all of my quick-jotting needs. creating new docs and colour-organising them is great. like skEdit, you can email a question about it to its maker and he’ll reply to you personallly. try it! you’ll love it!
thanks,
-m
Mats said 1412 days ago:
My paid for editors are:1, TextMate (1.02b5) ( mostly PHP, but even HTML coding )
2. skEdit 3.5 (HTML coding & FTP)
3. BBEdit 8 (printing code only = seldom)
My first reaction to TextMate was not all that positve, but since then I have understood the power of the many features in the app, such as Macro’s, Commands, Snippets and user definable syntax colouring. Give it a try, and let it grow on you and you will be positively surprised.
A good example: The last couple of days I was cleaning up some existing HTML code, and I encountered an issue with deleting ‘whitespace’ between HTML tags. A quick question on the MailingList, and the developer helped me create a Macro that does exactly what I needed.
With most other apps, these are problems/issues that would only be addressed when they upgrade their apps. (Yes, BB that’s you guys)
skEdit is more refined and has more features, so working with the strengths of both gives the best app.
Give TextMate & skEdit a year or so, and they will beat the pants of BBEdit I am sure. The BBEdit developers has seemingly become old, tired and content with what they have. They need to wake up fast if they wish to keep their position in the Mac text editor market.
Pascal said 1412 days ago:
skEdit + 1Although I’m tempted to turn back to DW sometimes… and to really try out bbedit.
but then, there is pretty much bang for your 20 bucks in that skEdit thingy.
Justin Williams said 1412 days ago:
SubEthaEdit/Hydra. Collaborative text editing is god.A close second to BBEdit, but ever since SEE got the command line tool, I haven’t used it nearly as much.
Dante Evans said 1412 days ago:
My favourite would have to be TSW Webcoder; it has all the functions you listed, although the latest version seems rather buggy (or maybe it’s features).Patrick Wynne said 1412 days ago:
BBEdit on my Mac, no question. Been using it for years and couldn’t get by without it.I looked for something similar to use on my PC at work and finally settled on jEdit because it had a lot of the same functionality as BBEdit and, more importantly, met my number one criteria: it’s free. Since I only use Windows at work and my bosses seem to think Notepad should suffice, I didn’t want to spend any money on a text editor.
jEdit has it’s quirks, but then again so does BBEdit. I’ve even put jEdit on my Mac, though it hasn’t seen much use.
David Schontzler said 1412 days ago:
Another VIM vote here.It has better syntax highlighting support than other programs I’ve used. I’m now very comfortable with it and find it a pain to use anything else. On Windows, there is an Intellisense plugin (useful for .NET), and I just discovered the ctags plugin. Pricless.
Yea, I know, I’m old fashioned, but I’m only 21! I’ve been using VIM since this summer and it is definitely worth the learning curve.
Ran Aroussi said 1412 days ago:
skEdit rule!As a new mac user (about 3 months), I’ve trialled pretty much every editor mentions here, and skEdit is—to me—the best editor by far.
Kudos to Sean (and Jon for the logo)...
Stephane Curzi said 1412 days ago:
TextMate, too many little thing that bother meSkEdit, Almost the best but I think the auto complete of tags is counter-productive when you edit a text, a better fonction is a close tag.
Smultron, my favorite these days, but no code hinting :-(
GoLive, too big but still, I use it all the time.
When I first started, I didn’t find anything so I decide to learn the basic of Cocoa programming, a year later cssWriter was born. I’m not a programmer so there is still no syntax coloring but it does almost what I want, I do use it as my main CSS editor even if there is almost all the code for XHTML. here’s a screenshot :
http://www.projetsurbain.com/projets/csswriter.jpg
Marc Jones said 1412 days ago:
TideText. Have used BBEdit in the past but rarely need it nowadays.Kevin Tamura said 1412 days ago:
Currently I use BBedit at home, but will be making the switch to SKedit.At work I use HomeSite since I’m on a PC.
Cheers,
K
Jim Connolly said 1412 days ago:
SubEthaEdit – mainly for it’s easy integration with Transmit. It’s quick and powerful.I dig both Textmate and skEdit as well, probably going to buy both in the future.
Brian Behrend said 1412 days ago:
I use skEdit when working on a Mac and Dreamweaver MX 2004 on PC. As someone with a Java/VB programming background, I’m used to working with IDE’s with autocomplete. I couldn’t leave behind that feature now that I’m working more with HTML and CSS.TextPad was an excellent editor, and if it had code completion I probably would still be using it and never have even tried DW.
Brian Behrend said 1412 days ago:
Dang email address typo in my last comment, and I wanna try out my new Gravatar!Jeff Harrell said 1412 days ago:
Wow. Sixty-seven skrillion comments. I’m not going to lie and say that I read them all.I use SubEthaEdit for HTML and CSSEdit for CSS. The built-in WebKit previewer in SubEthaEdit is essential.
Rik Abel said 1412 days ago:
Dreamweaver for web coding. BBEdit for Ruby. And a new text editor called Ulysses (http://www.blue-tec.com/ulysses/) for, like, writing stories and stuff. Found it via 43folders.com. S’good.At work I am forced to use Visual Studio .NET and Front Page, both of which suck major ass.
Caleb Maclennan said 1412 days ago:
I am going to have to cast my vote for vim along with Marcus Ramberg, TaQ, Scott, sean, Martin Sweeney, and Scott Johnson. I honestly do not think most of the rest of you understand the power of a text editor that can do anything you can think of in a single keystroke. There just are not any gui based editors that can match it for speed and versatility; not to mention syntax highlighting, autocompletion, autoformating, macros, shell integration, and customizability.Want to preview in a browser from a remote server? Not a problem. Want to use the current window to load the w3c documentation for the css property of php function under the cursor? Not a problem.
Nothing against you emacs people (or person, since it’s just walter here!). The power is there too, so keep rocking it.
Seth Thomas Rasmussen said 1412 days ago:
Dreamweaver for all of the reasons you mentioned about your preference, Mr. Hicks, as well as niceties like a built-in FTP client and, oh yeah, being really used to it. :)One thing Dreamweaver lacks that is amazing: collapsing code blocks.
jEdit allows this, and it’s really quite nice when you’re staring at line after line of code and you know that 90% of it is fine. Just collapse some if-else blocks, etc. If jEdit had built-in FTP and Site management that behaved closer to Dreamweaver, I’d be a jEdit man all the way.
Jeff Smith said 1412 days ago:
SubEthaEdit for me. I like it’s simplicity, as well as the fact that it supports Rendezvous collaboration.Noah Slater said 1412 days ago:
Emacs baby! All the way!Jon Hicks said 1412 days ago:
“I honestly do not think most of the rest of you understand the power of a text editor that can do anything you can think of in a single keystroke”I’d agree. I don’t ‘get’ Vim at all. As a designer looking for a HTML/CSS/PHP editor, I really see no advantage in using Vim. I guess you have to know how to use it properly (which is big issue), but it just feels so alien to me, like it’s telling me to go away. I also prefer an editor that allows me to open multiple files in one window. Can Vim do this?
Vim and Emacs look ideal for serious programmers, but I’m not a serious programmer, I’m a designer, who needs to code in order to implement ny designs with web standards.
Ian said 1412 days ago:
I use DreamWeaver at work for the highlighting, but if I’m lazy I’ll just write click an open up Notepad/WordPadOn my Mac I usually use BBedit but am looking towards something new.
Chris said 1412 days ago:
I’ve used skEdit for some time but have switched to TextMate since it was released. It’s integration of virtually any application that can be called on the command line makes it the most powerful tool/editor at hand.There are many things that still need improvement, but I think the next release will already fix some of the most requested things like print support and a preferences window (finally!).
Chris Vincent said 1412 days ago:
Mostly BBEdit. Occasionally TextMate.“Occasionally” will probably become “mostly” as soon as a few key features are added to TextMate. Namely: support for CVS/SVN, and BBEdit-style function listing.
dille said 1412 days ago:
jEdit or Vim, depending on the situation. Both very un-Mac-like, but they get the job done very nicely, and they’re both very powerful.Phill Kenoyer said 1412 days ago:
Right now I’m using Textmate and VIM.Textmate is good, but not perfect. It’s missing a lot of stuff and still has a bunch of bugs in it.
VIM would be perfect if it had tabs. It has a drop down menu to access the other buffers, but I think having tabs would be a big plus. The other problem with VIM is that it’s a Carbon app. It would be much better using the Cocoa lib. The last thing I hate about VIM on Mac is the ugly font rendering. I’m hopping for anti-aliased fonts soon.
I also like SubEthaEdit a lot. Problem with it is the slow text highlighting. It’s so slow that I can’t use it to program with. I would definitely use it if I knew anyone else that had a Mac and we were working on a project together. (It’s hard enough getting my family to switch to Macs)
Phil Moore said 1412 days ago:
After hearing you mention SkEdit a while ago, I trialled it, and subsequently began using it.I only have DreamWeaver for Windows, and the way it seems to auto-format code (unless you’re extremely careful with where you click) just annoys me.
I find the syntax checking in skEdit for PERL rather useful too _
Morten said 1412 days ago:
I use TextMate because it’s work in progress..Joshua Heyer said 1412 days ago:
Mac: skEditWin: Topstyle Pro
Josh Renaud said 1412 days ago:
As a guy on a really-tight budget, I’ve always relied on freeware: BBedit Lite on the Mac, and for those rare times I work on a PC, NoteTab Lite.I love BBedit, but haven’t tried any of the alternatives mentioned here. I will be looking into them shortly. :)
Mike said 1412 days ago:
Can I get a WHOOP WHOOP for Homesite and TopStyle?!......ya, i’m on a PC.
Chris McElligott said 1412 days ago:
I use SubEthaEdit, it’s the best text editor. Best of all it’s free for non-commerical use. I love it!Colin Barnes said 1412 days ago:
Dreamweaver for me everytime (Code view only). I like the fast access to ftp, this allows me to edit directly on the server and have a view of all the files in the directory, I like how it handles multiple pages, I like the spell checker and the ability to have some incredible extensions..I don’t find it slow at all on my G5 after I added the patch from the macromedia website.
I’ve tried skEdit and Textmate, these are both good, but I can’t live without the inbuilt ftp and file view.
Rob said 1412 days ago:
For now: jEdit: Free. Fast. Works.After Christmas: TopStyle Pro
I found it difficult to shell out the bucks for an editor when there’s jEdit, but I tried out TopStyle and the CSS-focus makes it a bargain—especially considering it’s $320.00 cheaper than the commercial Dreamweaver license!
chris said 1412 days ago:
I happen to use HTML-Kit and I think it’s pretty bad as far as editors go. It has broken tab support for those of us who favor tabs over spaces. It’s bloated. You have to sift through hundreds of plugins for functionality that should just plain be in an HTML editor. It only has 3 things going for it in my book: create file from clipboard, remote editing of files via FTP, and syntax highlighting with special coloring for PHP function names. However, it’s missing useful features such as convert selected text to lowercase or make selected text into paragraphs or lists or grouped undos I used to enjoy from a very dated and equally free 1st Page 2000 (not to be confused with FrontPage) by Evrsoft. But, 1st Page has a lot going against it, too: it doesn’t handle unknown file types very well (even if you try and tell it to support filetype xyz), no PHP syntax highlighting, and it must open an empty document on start-up, and development of it seems to have been forgotten 3 years ago.Since I discovered Web Drive by South River Technologies (http://www.southrivertech.com/index.php?pg=./products/webdrive/index), the remote editing of files HTML-Kit provides is no longer a selling point because now any editor I want can do it.
As much as I would love to try HomeSite, Macromedia has 2 strikes against them in my book: they reject my browser and they want my email address just to download a demo. I don’t want to try it that bad.
Gordon Mackay said 1412 days ago:
Frontpage, naaww, seriously I have used Dreamweaver since I became interested in coding pages. I got used to it, it’s community and an addiction to buying upgrades every 15 months.... it’s not my fault :)
Brady White said 1412 days ago:
ZEND Studio is the best text editor I use for PHP and is available on the mac. The list goes on for the PC… Dreamweaver MX 2004 => HTML / CSS with LayoutsContext (PC ONLY) => has great translators, you can even write Actionscript (.AS Files) with it
Brendan said 1412 days ago:
I use Scite. It’s simple and it’s tabbed ‘browsing’ feature is helpful when flicking between a number of files.gb said 1412 days ago:
I use a combination of BBEdit 8 (for editing files directly on a server), skEdit (just lovely, but sometimes get quirky), and CSSEdit for the CSS files. It would appear I’m a sucker for anything with “Edit” in the title.Brandon said 1412 days ago:
Mac: skEdit, and BBEdit on occasion. The one thing I don’t like about skEdit are the FTP features, but it’s great otherwise. I’m going to have another look at TextMate and check out VIM after seeing so many people enjoying them.PC: Edit+. I’m surprised I haven’t seen this listed on any other posts. It’s great – has wonderful highlighting, and its text wrap is better than any editor (it wraps to whatever indent the current block of text is at). Good search & replace, and great FTP integration. You can open a file from a site and hit save (or ctrl-s) and it saves back up to the server just like it would to a local file. If Edit+ was available for the Mac, I would use it on the Mac over anything else.
Michael Bester said 1412 days ago:
At work, on the PC, it’s HomeSite 5 for me. I use it every day and wouldn’t trade it for anything else.On the Mac at home, it’s skEdit all the way.
skEdit It is shaping up to be a killer application, and its nice to see that Sean is so responsive to user feedback to improve it. If there is any one feature that HomeSite has which I feel that skEdit lacks (for now), it’s tabbed windows. I would much prefer to use them to switch between open files then the dropdown menu. I’ve suggested this to Sean – perhaps it’ll make a future version.
I occaisionaly use CSSEdit as well, but I find it too sluggish on my well-worn G4 for heavy use.
Nico said 1412 days ago:
emacs simply rox ;)1beb said 1412 days ago:
Context!Richard Earney said 1412 days ago:
BBEdit – just got used to it over the years – hard to change. On the UNIX side pico – cos it is easy and I don’t have to think about using vi, vim or emacs!Cam said 1412 days ago:
SubEthaEdit, for all the reasons outlined above.skEdit comes in a close second.
I have tried playing with Eclipse for coding, but it’s a bit heavy-handed for what I need.
koekjesbaby said 1412 days ago:
i recently bought a powerbook and i am still waiting for scite to be ported to os x because scite is everything i need and very, very flexible. but so far no luck, just a lazy x11 port.Nell said 1412 days ago:
How timely. I downloaded skEdit yesterday and will start using it today to code a new site. It has a lot of features I had been looking for, like tag completion and automatic conversion of special characters to HTML entities. Jon, I love the icon.Before, I used BBEdit. I’m looking for other editors because the update price is a little high for me.
I also use CSSEdit. I love it, it helped me a lot to learn CSS. It works fine for me in my old G4.
I downloaded TextMate, but I didn’t understand a lot of the features. I guess it’s more oriented for heavy coders.
Ben Poole said 1412 days ago:
SubEthaEdit and vi on the Mac, TextPad on the PC. Been meaning to try skEdit for a long time too.Andyk said 1412 days ago:
Dreamweaver MX 2004 and/or TextPadI’m too lazy to write HTML from scratch but I get quite finicky about code cleanliness so more often than not, I’ll spend most of my time in code view!
I use TextPad for writing PHP n stuff… just because it uses next to no system resources. Oh and occassionally I’ll use VI on my web server for quick and dirty changes. ;o)
Jon Hicks said 1412 days ago:
“I use TextMate because it’s work in progress..”What’s that supposed to mean? Its unfinished therefore I use it? Or are you hinting that you think progress on others has stopped? (It certainly hasn’t on skEdit or SubEthaEdit).
Would love to know what you mean by that!
Ian Phillip said 1412 days ago:
I’ve just gone over to skEdit. It’s still a little rough ‘round the edges, but the interface is wonderful, the automation/autocompletion/code-hint features are superb and it’s small, light and fast. The icons are quite nice as well!Honestly, it must be the best tenner I’ve spent in my professional life.
Simon Alibert said 1412 days ago:
BBEdit 8, is the best for me, I whish I can find a tool like that on my PC ;)It’s a quite expensive tool, but I’m really a big fan now (the last version is stuning !)
Dave Foy said 1412 days ago:
skEdit and CSSEdit all the way for me. Looking forward to skEdit 3.5!Janne Kalliola said 1412 days ago:
Emacs, it’s one of the most powerful programs available. The learning curve is steep, but when you really get hold of it and understand how to configure the beast, your productivity skyrockets. The key is to let your mouse rest and use the keyboard.Jon, you can make emacs do all the tricks (and much much more) that the more GUI oriented editors can do. Multiple views to multiple files or to the same file, syntax highlighting, automatic completions, editing binary files, regexps for search and replace, compiling and running programs in buffers, reading emails and news, surfing web etc.
Sometimes the result looks crude, but then you can use it also over SSH pipe to your service provider. And it is available to all platforms.
Emacs is also extremely extensible, but you have to understand the basics of LISP, a programming language whose beauty is usually not recognised by most of the programmers (lack of vision :)
I think that the key difference between text/control based editors (vi & emacs) and ‘normal’ editors is that in text/control you have to know what you are doing, the system is not going to teach it. You have to understand the concepts. If you do, the productivity is higher compared to mouse driven editors. If you don’t, you can’t get anything done.
Jon, give them a try. But approach them from different angle than normal editors, otherwise you will be blinded with your expectations of an editor.
Joop Vos said 1412 days ago:
BBEdit because that’s the one I started with several years ago … still only for HTML … because of the upgradeprice, I’m planning to give skEdit a try … and I do CSS with that very impressive little prog called CCSEdit!Derek Collins said 1412 days ago:
I’ve read many posts on this subject, but I have never chimed in to give my two cents, so here it is:My vote goes to skEdit! I downloaded the demo after reading about it on this site and I bought it after I found myself really wanting to use it after the demo period was over. I think it is a great application for all of the reasons that have already been mentioned (fast and simple, great look and feel, which is a factor for me, incredible support, etc.). At $20 with free lifetime upgrades you just can’t beat skEdit.
That said, I tried out BBEdit when I switched to using Macs because it was held in such high regard by so many Mac-using web developers. I just couldn’t get into it. The look and feel didn’t work for me and the price was a little much for what I felt I was getting. I also tried out SubEthaEdit and Taco HTML Editor. I liked both of them because they were free, but again, the look and feel just didn’t work for me.
Also, I’ve used Dreamweaver MX extenisvely on both Windows and Mac and it is a program that I am very used to using, so switching to another program was not easy for me. I help to develop a small college web site. The pages number just over 1000 at this point. We’ve foud that Dreamweaver starts to falter under this kind of load with certain site-wide operations (other developers working on large sites have noted the same thing). We recently upgraded to MX 2004 on both Windows and Mac and there were some good improvements (certainly some improvemnt in speed on the Mac, but it’s still a little sluggish). I do like Dreamweaver MX 2004, I use it at work and I occasionally use it at home (it’s now being fased out by skEdit), but I think it carries a pretty hefty price tag for a program that still has a lot of little bugs and glitches. It is a great WYSISYG editor and it works pretty well when you are working in a team environment (the check in/check out feature, it’s integration with Contribute, etc.).
Okay, that’s a little more than 2 cents perhaps, but I hope it adds to the discussion!
Rachel said 1411 days ago:
I used to use Homesite on Windows but have recently dumped it in favour of Eclipse – which is fantastic along with the PHP plugin. I use Emacs a reasonable amount especially when working on a remote box as it is generally available and agree with Janne that it is worth the time spent to learn how to use it. I also use Topstyle on the PC, Quanta on Linux, Netbeans sometimes, I tend not to use a lot of the features of editors so I’m not too tied to one in particular.greg said 1411 days ago:
in my windows days, homesite was my favorite, and since then i’ve looked for something equivalent on mac. dreamweaver is bloated and heavy, with terrible syntax highlighting.for a long time i used bbedit simply because of the document drawer. recently, i have returned again to VIM.
best features:
> fastest searching EVER. the original spotlight.
> auto-complete words. just hit ctrl-n half-way through word.
> all wrist and hand pains have subsided. the time saved not having to move to the mouse every minute is well worth the 2 weeks you need to invest to learn it.
skEdit is ok, but i realized i had to use arrow keys to move around text which is pretty much the slowest way possible. the site manger is fantastic, though the default highlighting is completely ridiculous. why would comments be in bright red??
small complaints, i know. if i hadnt returned to VIM, i would be seriously considering skEdit as a promising alternative to bbEdit.
greg said 1411 days ago:
eclipse is also phenomenal. however, i consider eclipse to be more for hardcore programming tasks, whereas asp/php/perl all feel lighter-weight.basically, i use VIM when i want speed of loading and just want to code now. i use eclipse when im doing software design and super hardcore stuff.
Caleb Maclennan said 1411 days ago:
“As a designer looking for a HTML/CSS/PHP editor…”As much as I dable in design, I am not a designer. I am a programmer/network admin and so I’m starting from a different vantage point when I am looking for an editor and I understand that. It seems to me however that programmers are far more qualified than designers when it comes to picking an editor. I agree that learning (or as you put it “getting”) vim is a frightening task, but if you really do need power and speed and versatility in an editor, it might just be worth it.
“I also prefer an editor that allows me to open multiple files in one window. Can Vim do this?”
Yes it can. You can have multiple buffers open and toggle between them, or split the screen into any number of sections and view different buffers in each section. You can even take two sections and diff them and vim will highlight the differences side by side.
Also to those who have mentioned integrated FTP as being usefull, vim can easily be configured to manage FTP (or scp or ANY OTHER remote file system) copies of files. This takes a little configuring, but it can be done.
I’m not trying to argue it’s for everybody because some people don’t have enough editing to do to make the learning curve worth while, but for those that do it makes me sad every time I watch people blundering around in an editor that is 5 times more cumbersome that it has to be!
Rob McMichael said 1411 days ago:
Thanks Jon, I was trying to extend my trial on the very expensive BBedit (poor student here) and love Skedit (plus the icon looks great next to transmit)Thanks for the heads up
Rob
ChrisJ said 1411 days ago:
Me, just a win bloke, if it’s not mentioned yet can only give you this link and say I love UltraEdit.Vladimir said 1411 days ago:
I’ve tried Golive, didn’t like it, too bloated on site management, it also doesn’t feel like an adobe app. Dreamweaver is better, but i stopped using that years ago, back at v4. occasionally the odd editor gets installed, but quickly get uninstalled.For HTML + CSS, Topstyle Pro. For Serverside Coding, it’s got to be MS Visual Studio. Afterall, can anyone else suggest a C# editor? I work on a PC by the way.
has anyone mentioned notepad yet? ok i know notepad2 is out there, and its pretty good, but hey, i’m a traditionalist
Arve said 1411 days ago:
I use one of these, varying with where I am, and what I’m doing:* PSPad
* EditPlus
* EMACS
Mark said 1411 days ago:
skEdit for all my HTML and CSS writing. I am very happy with skEdit and I happen to know a live preview is planned for one of the upcoming releases. Its light, its fast, its elegant and just awesome to use.Mark Davis said 1411 days ago:
SubEthaEdit and CSSEdit are the best tools I’ve found to use. I mainly use these applications because they are Cocoa, look great, and work smoother than most applications I’ve used.Elliott Pogue said 1411 days ago:
TextMate for PHP and HTML. CSSEdit for CSS.Ralf said 1411 days ago:
After “switching” to the Mac I tried BBEdit, because everybody and his friend seems to like it. But I didn’t like it, it’s bloated and ugly.I purchased SkEdit a few months ago and like it, but TextMate is a strong rival, I purchased it, too. Now I’m busy to find it which one I like more. ;-)
Phil Baines said 1411 days ago:
It has to be Dreamweaver MX 2004 for me, but never as a visual designer, only as a text editor and for file managment. The code highlighting is great, and the intellisense is great. Plus the FTP built into it helps a great deal.I quite commenly use the edit CSS extention in Firefox aswell. It is great to see things changing on the page as you are coding, and now with the later versions of editCSS you can save the file when you have finished.
Angad said 1411 days ago:
Texturizer and/or Topstyle Lite.nikobe said 1411 days ago:
Like you I tried several editors and finally settled on skedit, speed was the main factor. Auto complete is invaluable and the project management makes sense.Can’t beat the price either.
Pete Lonsdale said 1410 days ago:
I use Topstyle. It appears to be perfect! ;o)