06/06/07
Camino One Point Five
Much kudos the Camino developers – Camino 1.5 is released today. With so many new features, such as RSS detection and Session Saving (Ha! Take that one Safari!) it was decided that this was a 1.5, rather than a 1.1 release.
I love Camino. In February last year I wrote about being a Browser Polygamist but only a few days after that post, Camino became my default, and a year and half later, it still is. I never thought that would happen. You can keep your whines about ‘lack of Firefox extensions’, Camino’s Mozilla power and Mac style hits the spot for me everytime. What’s more, its only going to get better.
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Graham said 342 days ago:
Oh man, and I just switched back to Safari because I got so fed up with Camino’s crap! I loved the 2.0 beta, except that it crashed twice a day, so I switched to the 1.x version but was always kinda disappointed at its lack of goodness. Biggest pet peeve: the form-filler/password saver didn’t hold a candle to Safari’s. Next biggest: no spell check. Looks like they took care of one of ‘em at least…
Eric King said 342 days ago:
It was the autofill that did it for me – never seemed to work as well as safari. I LOVE caminos look. LOVE IT. Especially when sat next to safari (even with Uno installed).
The other gripe was how apps wouldn’t automatically mount themselves, widgets wouldn’t be extracted and shown on the desktop. Oh and LOVE the image drag that safari has (camino can do same job I know – but safari does it with so much more style).
FINAL niggle was lack of inquisitor app. I rarely enter the google homepage anymore thanks to that wonderful toy. Instant flickr/imdb/wikipedia without having to touch the mouse.
Small things I know – but unfortunatly they made all the diffrence to me – so even though it’s slower, uglier, and has no adblock. Safari wins for the moment.
PS. PLEASE camino – PLEASE add these features. You’ll have a user for life!
Andy Peatling said 342 days ago:
Love it. I’ve been using it for about a year now. No spell checking was always a pain, but now it’s there, there’s no looking back…
Aaron T. said 341 days ago:
John, personally I like Camino, too. Definitely wins, over Safari.
However, I’ve been more and more interested in Shiira, which has recently “taken” me for it’s overall beauty and the way it does things. The RSS reader built in is actually useful, and the visual tabs are nice.
A lot of stuff for designers, too. With a flick of the Cmd-i, you can see the source of the HTML, the CSS, the JavaScript, Images, Cookies, DOMs, Links, and a whole bunch of other general information.
Sure there are some kinks getting worked out, but definitely a win in my books. I still have a “thing” for Camino, too, though.
Steve said 341 days ago:
Anyway to get Camino’s RSS thinger to use Google reader as the RSS client to which it registers to feeds with (like Firefox does?)
Sorry to use your comments as a support board, but I figured this crowd would be the one who’d know.
Thanks!
Dale Mugford said 341 days ago:
Much agreed, John- it’s my home base as well. Thanks to your GReader theme, I’ll re-visit the possibility of Safari taking over again only when Leopard comes out.
Uncle Asad said 341 days ago:
Steve, the code that does that was supposed to be shared Mozilla code, but it currently lives in a place only Firefox can use it. The code is going to get moved to a proper place, and we do plan to implement it when that happens.
Somewhere I think I’ve seen an app that takes hand-offs from other apps and redirects them to online services like Google Reader, but I can’t recall it now.
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum?f=12 is the Camino support forum, btw ;-)
Eddie Sowden said 341 days ago:
1.5 is indeed a major step forward. I think that Camino like Adium really highlights how well polished and great open source apps can still be.
Just out of interest did you have a hand in the new site that launched with 1.5?
Jim P said 341 days ago:
You’ve switched me over to Camino all by yourself Jon – thanks :-). My main browser previously was Firefox, but I’m so sick of it’s memory leaks and general sluggishness that I had to make a move.
My only gripe with Camino is that it only seems to be able to store one username/password for a site. I often have to log in with multiple usernames/passwords, so that’s a bit of a pain. Anyone have a solution other than storing them in Yojimbo which I’m already doing?
John said 341 days ago:
Hail to Camino. With CamiTools it one mother.
Barry Bloye said 341 days ago:
Why not have the best of both worlds?! I use Camino for surfing and Firefox with the mighty Web Developer Toolbar and Firebug for development. The missus still loves Safari, though. :)
Jon Hicks said 341 days ago:
“Just out of interest did you have a hand in the new site that launched with 1.5?”
I designed it, re-used Jasper Hauser’s header icons from the previous site, and Zach Inglis and Samuel Sidler actually put it all together!
Sergio Mora said 341 days ago:
What I don’t like about Camino is that the tabs are just too near to the line which separates the tab bar and the standard bar (this is a GUI design, pixel perfect point of view). As a GUI designer, that bothers me a lot. I appreciate a lot Aaronax themes, in terms of their precision in that kind of matter.
I use Safari for web browsing, mostly because it integrates better with other tools (Yojimbo’s bookmarklets, drag and dropping text, inquisitor…)
Thanks.
Justin said 341 days ago:
The other major gripe I always here with FireFox and Camino on OS X is the lack of CMS (Color Management) support on Gecko (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16769). This is not the case on Safari and a lot of photographers only use Safari because of that.
More about this: http://andypiper.wordpress.com/2007/03/22/on-colour-matching-in-gecko-on-os-x/
But I love Camino – small, fast, beautiful, etc – my fav browser on OS X.
Dusan Smolnikar said 341 days ago:
I’ve also been using Camino as default, due to Firefox being quite laggy and slow on mac… But I recently downloaded a fresh Firefox 2.0.0.4 G5 optimized build, created a fresh profile without plugins and I can say it makes a big difference. By just installing Firebug, Firefox gets noticeably slower. Give it a try, fresh profile, no plugins.
I do think Camino is a great browser, but it just lacks some of those little features Firefox has – middle click tab closing, no (X) on tabs, being able to have narrower tabs before the sub-menu comes up, better implementation of search. All in all, it’s more customizable (requires some tweaking in about:config though).
This build of Firefox also has aqua form widgets, which look very nice.
But then again, I do switch from Firefox to Camino and back every half of year or so :) And I’m probably one of the few mac users that actually like the Firefox’s default theme.
oh and btw, I quite like the new Camino website, well done!
Steve said 340 days ago:
Hi,
Thanks for the heads up on the new camino release.
Now that Camino has an “rss sensor,” does anybody know if/how we can configure it such that the default action on subscribing to an rss feed is to add the feed to Google reader (instead of an OS X reader)?
Thanks,
-steve
jon said 340 days ago:
Downloaded it, tried it, deleted it. I tried to access my local test server, it refused, tried to read an rss feed, it refused – gone back to Safari.
Splutter said 339 days ago:
Like the new Camino v much and would probably be using it full time if I wasn’t having a ball with Shiira on webkit nightlies.
I loved the sidebar of the old Shiira and this way it gets the webkit benefits with Keychain access. Take your pick from v2 – impressive Source Inspector (not so impressive Bookmarks handling), v1.2.3 – my favourite (with sidebar), also there is a version of Shiira 1.2.2 on webkit lurking that has the Inspect Element from webkit – just not too stable at present.
They seem much faster than Camino on my machine.
Splutter said 338 days ago:
“Now that Camino has an “rss sensor,” does anybody know if/how we can configure it such that the default action on subscribing to an rss feed is to add the feed to Google reader (instead of an OS X reader)?”
@Steve + Uncle Asad – you need the RSS2BL script from Jeby to pass-off the feed to wherever, from within Preferences>General>Default Feed Viewer:RSS2BL
Splutter said 338 days ago:
Sorry Steve, you said Google Reader – try RSS2GR
Rahul Gonsalves said 338 days ago:
Chiming in quickly, to help anyone who’s had this problem. Remove the CaminoSession plugin completely, from your computer, (~/Library/InputManagers/), as Camino will not access any webpages with it installed.
Lovely new site for Camino!
Isaac Bythewood said 330 days ago:
I wouldn’t post so loud, there be dragons among us… Mac style? Go download Firefox and put the GrApple (Eos Pro) theme on it and there you go, something that fits Mac 10x better then Camino + (whine time) you get all those fabulous extensions. On the other hand if you truly want a powerful browser pick up Opera, it can’t be beat for it’s security and modular goodness.
Jon Hicks said 330 days ago:
Isaac – you’re talking to someone who uses every browser out there, and still wants to use Camino most of all.
The GrApple theme is excellent (thats why I host it), but Firefox still feels like a port of a PC application. It doesn’t integrate with the OS the way Camino does (Keychain, services, Address Book, Bonjour etc). Camino has been built from the ground up as MAC only application and I prefer how that feels. I use Firefox for Firebug and general web dev, but it can’t beat Camino for browsing. for me. There are many FF extensions, but only a few of them I find useful. How you can say FF + a theme looks more mac like is beyond me.
Also, Camino does have some extensions, look at Pimpmycamino.com!
If I want a powerful browser, I use Omniweb, rather than (again) a port of PC application. Opera is great, but sorely needs a proper Mac interface.
Anyway, as for powerful, Camino has a lot of power, and is only going to get more powerful.