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Camino, Wordpress, and the liberation of pre-made templates

For a while I’d been toying with the idea of a PimpMyCamino with people from the Mozillazine forums. The backend would be easy enough – just copy PimpMySafari’s Textpattern database tables, and take it from there. However, I became stuck. Not with the content, but with the site design.

As a designer, I felt the expectation was on me to come up with something unique for the site. And so it was for months that ‘PMC’ wouldn’t get off the ground because I never had time to design it.

The project only became unstuck once I decided to give Wordpress a try and use someone else’s pre made theme templates (in this case, the lovely Hemingway). This meant that developement time was cut down to a real minimum. I could simply upload a folder to the site, select it in my preferences, and the site was there, ready for content to be added. While on the one hand I felt guilty, the liberation of being able to get a site up and running in small space of time was incredible. The real work in PMC came when ‘the others’ (Karlheinz, the creator of CamiTools, and David Feare, who had been running a site listing themes and optimised builds for Camino) added the content.

It also gave me the chance to really get to grips with Wordpress. I haven’t tried it since v1.2, when I was originally looking for a replacement for using Textpattern. It was an interesting experience, and I just want to share a wee list of good and bad experiences with it.

What I like about Wordpress

  • The fact that I can upload images in the write window, choose whether to add it as a linked thumbnail or full-size image, and then insert the code into my post.
  • The templating system is genius. Being able to upload a folder to your server, and choose a different site layout and style is something Textpattern needs to attract people looking for a quick solution to get them up an running.
  • Posting by email!
  • Support for multiple categories, with clean category URLs. Yum.
  • Easy static pages, with the ability to nest them, and order them.
  • I didn’t like the default admin interface, but the TIger admin theme by Steve Smith makes using Wordpress enjoyable.
  • Wordpress’s category system can reproduce TXP’s sections functionality to an extent (but I still prefer the TXP way).

What I didn’t…

  • The tag system. After the logic of TXP’s beautiful XML style tag system. Wordpress’s PHP code was a realshock. Fortunately, relying on a pre-made template meant that I didn’t need to get my hands dirty with its code too much. While I get the feeling that those familiar with PHP would find it more flexible and powerful, as a designer, I’d take TXP tags any day.
  • Textpattern has a good file upload/download system that I really miss in Wordpress.
  • The root of a Wordpress install is whole heap of files. Fortunately, there is a way of moving everything to its own directory, but it would be nice to have a cleaner install in the first place.
  • I missed TXP’s ‘reset timestamp to now’ function. In WP, to make a post go to the top (for when a plugin is updated for example) I had to manually re-enter the date.
  • When editing posts, there is no easy way to go to the previous or next entry from that screen, you have to return to the ‘manage’ page first.
  • Editing User options (without changing the password) requires you to make the password textfield (which has been auto-filled) blank. If you forgot to do this, the next screen would warn you of the error, and send you back to the page with your changes lost. Grrr! I really think the field should empty in the first place.

For hicksdesign, I still prefer to use Textpattern, but I’ve enjoyed seeing life from the other side.

As for PimpMyCamino, its still very early days, but unlike PimpMySafari, this will be a community driven site, not relying on me to keep it updated!

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No.1

Dan Bowling said 1187 days ago:

Could you elaborate on what you found frustrating with the tag system? Perhaps an example?

I admit it is no XSLT driven tag system, like Symphony from 21 Degrees, but I have never considered it one of the shortfalls. Though I wish it would output only the essentials, rather than some extra gunk (like the heading, and some weird ascii thing on the title.)

No.2

Neil said 1187 days ago:

Congrats on the site launch, Jon! Of course, this motivates me to contribute more to Pimp My Safari…

Interesting to read your thoughts on WordPress. I just downloaded it for the first time in months a few days ago and I totally agree on the tagging. I’m adequate in PHP but there’s something… inelegant about using raw PHP.

No.3

Matt Robin said 1187 days ago:

Yeah Jon…I use TXP for my site…but I’m also trying to get to grips with WP too – and I’m not finding it as user-friendly at all. I think there’s thinks I like about WP that I’d want to see in TXP, and then there’s things in TXP that I’d like to see in WP….
Hmm – maybe I’m just being too picky. It’s useful to know what both do (and don’t do).

No.4

computerdude33 said 1187 days ago:

I use WP for my personal site. I actually find it easier to code in WP than TXP for the pure purpose that everything makes sense. I worked with TXP for a while, but I personally thought that the TXP tags were cumbersome. (I also switched away just because WP is for blogging, TXP is for a whole site)

No.5

David said 1187 days ago:

Hey Hicksy, don’t ya know it’s Naked Day today? http://naked.dustindiaz.com/

No.6

Amit Karmakar said 1187 days ago:

I agree Jon, wish the root of WP was cleaner and not spruced with so many files. But I do like WP.

No.7

izo said 1187 days ago:

Maybe can you try SPIP … http://www.spip.net/en

No.8

Jon Hicks said 1187 days ago:

No more CMS’s please! There’s only so many hours in the day

No.9

Michael said 1187 days ago:

“Editing User options (without changing the password) requires you to make the password textfield (which has been auto-filled) blank. If you forgot to do this, the next screen would warn you of the error, and send you back to the page with your changes lost. Grrr! I really think the field should empty in the first place.”

Just today, I’ve downloaded the most recent release of WP (v2.02). In it, the password-fields aren’t autofilled…

No.10

Jon Hicks said 1187 days ago:

Thats good news Michael, thanks!

No.11

Eddie Sowden said 1186 days ago:

On the password not being blank thing I dont think this is a problem with WordPress but your browser (which ever one you are in bed with at the moment). Your browser is trying to be to clever and thinking the profile page is a login page. Thus auto-compleating the username and password boxes.

I had this same problem when I played with wordpress not to long ago.

Cheers for PimpMyCamino a central point for plugins was needed.

No.12

Matthew said 1186 days ago:

“The root of a Wordpress install is whole heap of files. Fortunately, there is a way of moving everything to its own directory, but it would be nice to have a cleaner install in the first place.”
Totally, also a one click upgrade would be very beneficial.

No.13

J.D. said 1186 days ago:

As far as the Wordpress/Textpattern debate goes, I think it’s a matter of what you started out with. I started with Wordpress and find it easier to get my head around than Textpattern. Not that Textpattern is hard, just not as familiar to me. I’d be willing to bet that if I started with Textpattern, then I’d be liking like you Jon. Both are great systems. Congratz on the PimpMyCamino launch. Been looking forward to it.

No.14

Joshua Brewer said 1185 days ago:

I just found the Textpattern port of the theme you are using…. just in case you want to stick with Textpattern.

It’s located here

Oh, and any idea when we might get some Firefox-y CSS editing capabilities? It’s the only thing keeping me bouncing back and forth…

No.15

Chris P. said 1184 days ago:

I’ll agree that WP has some downsides. My biggest gripes are:

1. The lack of a draft option on static Pages. They publish straight away!

2. The lack of category-level passwords, so posts within a category can all be protected with one password.

The template process is great and now there is a good selection of templates and template frameworks, such as K2 and Fauna, which are great to work with.

The administration process could be a lot better. The Tiger admin style makes it easier on the eyes, but general entry management is a little sucky.

Still, WP remains my favourite web app to date, and the plugin community makes it very easy to snap-in additional functionality where needed.

No.16

David said 1181 days ago:

Have been wondering if a site would be needed eventually for Shiira – had a play with PimpMyShiira design but to go live with the domain would seems a long way off – if ever!?

However, to be Textpattern/WordPress or not to be either – that is the question? But may produce a version of each on the design…

No.17

David said 1181 days ago:

Oh better put where it is – PimpMyShiira

No.18

shorty114 said 1180 days ago:

Previoiusly, I would say “screw TXP—WordPress is way better!” but now that I’ve used TXP for a business site I worked on, I think I might even use TXP for my personal site.

It’s a lot faster, and while it’s a little hard to get running (and to understand, from a WP user’s view), it’s worth it in the end. Although the template system is a little weird.

No.19

thetorpedodog said 1178 days ago:

Well, obviously you’re really looking for Wordpattrn! to take care of all of your CMS needs and wants.

No.20

David said 1175 days ago:

The answer to your dreams! WordPattern

No.21

YOP said 1175 days ago:

wish the root of WP was cleaner and not spruced with so many files

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